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Current Graduate Students - Frequently Asked Questions

Classes - "Can a student take a course with the same number twice, especially if the content and faculy have changed significantly?"

*- Note: you can take a course twice (although it doesn't seem to be recommended) as long as it's not a core/required course. If it is required, you can sign up for an independent study (Soc 999) with the new professor, for which the work would simply be the work of the class (i.e. no extra work for either you or the new professor).
Topics courses with the same number can be repeated; one would assume the extended title of the course, if any, would change, indicating that the instructor and content are clearly different.

Classes - Contemporary Theory Requirement

For those of you who need a contemporary theory course the following fullfill the requirements:
Soci542 - Feminist Theory
Soci549 - Media, Culture & Society
Soci667 - Social Interaction
- Economic Sociology (if offered)

 

Classes - Meeting Times

Info from faculty meeting: class times are like psychiatry visits--an hour is 50 minutes. I've heard from TAs that sometimes classes run over when they have their own class afterward. This puts them in the difficult spot of having to leave early while the undergrads are still sitting there or being late for their own class. Remember: an hour class should finish in 50 minutes, a 1.5 hr class in 75 minutes, a 3 hour class in 150 miniutes.

Classes - Soc 535: Waiving requirement

Subject: Waiving SOCI 535
From Dr. Herb Smith:
Folks,

SOCI 535 is a required course in both Demography and Sociology. It is an introduction to statistics. We assume that students know nothing about the course when they arrive.

The course can, however, be waived.

Who should take the course?
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1. Students who have never taken statistics
2. Students who have taken a graduate level course in statistics, but did poorly
3. Students who have taken an undergraduate course in statistics, but didn't do well in it.

Who doesn't need to take the course?
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Anyone who has already had a first-course in statistics and feels comfortable with the most elementary concepts.

How to know which category students are in? The students themselves can have a look at the book, which is in the bookstore: David S. Moore and George P. McCabe, *Introduction to the Practice of Statistics*. We shall cover chapters 1-10. And/or they can get in touch with me--e-mail is fine. If it is not self-evident which class to take, there will be a test on the web that they can take to see if they know the material. (Link to this to follow)

 

Degrees - Application for Degrees

If a student applies for their degree for May and doesn't make it and reapplies for an August degree and makes it in August, they won't have to do anything again. If the student doesn't make the August degree, they will have to go back on dissertation in September in order to graduate in December. An on-line application is required each time a student is up for degree and cancels.

Degrees - Master's Degree from another University

What if I have an MA from another university? Can I transfer courses? Yes, a maximum of 8. The list of courses you wish to transfer has to be approved by the graduate chair (and then by the graduate dean). Do I still have to write a second year paper and take the MA seminar (Soc603)? Yes. The point is that Soc 603 focuses on writing a research paper of publishable quality that is often a crucial step toward the PhD dissertation. We thus do not feel that an MA from elsewhere is a substitute.

 

Dissertations

The faculty considers it acceptable to do a dissertation that consists of three papers. The details, however--e.g. whether the three papers should have a common theme or whethere they can be quite disparate--should be discussed with your committee.

Dissertation Committees - Composition

It looks like we need 1/2 of the committee to be members of the Sociology graduate group -- current faculty. And the chair must be a member of the group and standing faculty.

"At least half of the members of Ph.D. examination and dissertation committees must be members of the graduate group at the time of appointment to the committees. Faculty who are not members of the graduate group may serve only with the written approval of the graduate group. The authority to approve membership on committees may be delegated to the graduate chair. The chairs of dissertation committees and of all examination committees must be members of the Standing Faculty in the graduate group. If the chair of a dissertation committee leaves the Standing Faculty before the dissertation is completed, then a new chair from the Standing Faculty must be appointed as chair. The dissertation committee chair is responsible for convening committee meetings, advising the student on graduate group and university expectations, and assuring the graduate group chair that the group's requirements have been met. The committee chair does not have to be the primary dissertation adviser."

Dissertation Defense

PhD students who matriculated prior to 1995 are not required to hold a public defense of the dissertation. The oral/final exam may take whatever form the committee wishes.

Dissertation Status

Several students who are close to dissertation status but haven't had the required dissertation proposal course Soci620, asked me whether they can go on dissertation status in fall semester and still take the required course in the next spring. The answer is yes.

Dissertation Status - Tuition

Question: If a student defends their dissertation in January, does the student have to pay dissertation tuition for that semester?

Answer: No, the student will "not" have to pay tuition for the semester, because they will qualify for the "Dissertation Courtesy Waiver". The tuition "courtesy waiver" applies for those students who pass the defense of their dissertation early in the semester (for date, check with the Grad Division office) The "completely signed" 152 (Acceptance of Dissertation) Form needs to be in the office before the tuition waiver can be posted for the semester.

Dissertation Status - Reduced Tuition

The student who has been Dissertation Status/Registration for more than five (5) semesters qualifies for reduced tuition or the low rate until finished.

 

Grades

Grades should be a letter grades. Graduate students are not permitted to take courses P/F, and the only courses permitted to be graded "S" are 999s, or courses traditionally given an "S" or workshop/seminar courses that also were given an "S" grade traditionally.

Any "S" grade given would need to be changed to a letter grade (unless a "999" independent study course) before the student gets their degree -- when they defend their dissertation or right after.

 

Incompletes

On the graduate level in Arts & Sciences, the grade of "I" will remain so for as long as one year - after which the "I" becomes I* and never an "F".

Independent Study

Question: Can any faculty member supervise an independent study? (Asked regarding Professor Dennis Culhane) Answer: "Dennis is a member of the population studies center and may have a secondary appointment in sociology. He has funded one of our students for a number of years. But, in addition to these connections, any member of the standing faculty at Penn can supervise an independent study."

 

Joint Demography - Sociology Program

We do have a joint program. Basically a student can get a PhD in sociology and demography by fulfilling the requirements for both programs. (This is joint, not dual like the JD/PhD or MD/PhD) For sociology students, this means adding the required courses in demography, taking (and passing) the demography MA exams and the PhD prelim exams, and having the dissertation committee agree that the dissertation is a work in both sociology and demography. The regulations deal with more subtle issues such as the 2nd year seminar in demography vs the master's seminar in sociology, although these are often worked out on an ad hoc basis.

Joint Demography - Sociology Program - Changing from "Joint" to single program

Question: Should a student write a letter withdrawing from the joint program? The student wishes to obtain his/her PhD in Demography only?
Answer: Yes, the student needs to write a letter to "both" chairs including his/her reason/s for not continuing the joint degree and continuing only in Demography. BOTH chairs must approve via signing the letter, and a copy of the signed letter should be sent to the Coordinator in the Grad Division Office. It will then be changed in SRS to reflect the student's new status.

 

Language Courses

The question is - Can a graduate student take a course say Spanish, for credit, since the language courses in question are on the undergrad level.
The answer is - If the advisor and GG Chair approve the taking of this course, the course should be taken either on a graduate level cross-listed number (if one exists) or as an Independent Study (999). The language professor also should agree to the Independent Study and give extra assignments, etc. Remember that undergrad course numbers "do not" calculate credit on graduate level transcripts!

 

Teaching Assistantships

General: A Graduate Student can only TA for one course per semester.

If a student is a TA for the full year, Fall and Spring Semesters - they are funded for one cu in the summer: 3 Fall, 3 Spring, 1 Summer.

Question:
Is it o.k. for a student who has a non-service fellowship this semester to also be a TA? I was reluctant, but the student says this semester they will be doing field work (qualitative interviews) and says that's a process with a lot of down-time built in.
Answer:
It's ok to juggle support years, but they can't actually hold both packages at once. The student would either have to turn back the fellowship and take up the TA, or could simply hold the fellowship and do the work, if it really isn't too much of a burden and they are intereted in the project. But they can't do both at once. (The assumption was an internal Fellowship, not an external one.)

 

Summer Tuition

Summer is a free ride at Penn - no tuition, nothing to register for (dissertation, etc.).

 

 

Last Modified: 18-Sep-2007
For updates, comments please contact: saunderc@ssc.upenn.edu

 

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